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on education, on the right way to fix the deficit. romney's approach is the wrong approach. taxes, on deficit, on wall street reform and medicare on mk. and we think that voters are taking this election very seriously. taking the middle class of the country and i do think the president made very clear that we're rebouning from a recession. we're making progress. but there's no progress to be made and if we go back to trickle down economics which is all romney's offering, that the middle class will be harmed and it's going to marme our economy. >> one last question for you and it is a little bit on the style of this and i realize that you're a policy guy as much as you are a candidate guy but i do have to ask you to be candid on the. was there a deliberate strategy on your part to tell the president to not attack mitt romney? he never talked directly to mitt romney and told him that he was being wrong about things. the one time he got closest to that when he said -- your strategy right now is to say "never mind" about your previous tack plan. that's as close as they got to ta
on education, on the right way to fix the deficit. romney's approach is the wrong approach. taxes, on deficit, on wall street reform and medicare on mk. and we think that voters are taking this election very seriously. taking the middle class of the country and i do think the president made very clear that we're rebouning from a recession. we're making progress. but there's no progress to be made and if we go back to trickle down economics which is all romney's offering, that the middle class...
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it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues and therefore the tax cut will be paid for. well that sounds an awful lot like the bush recession, where they fought two wars that weren't on line, they gave tax cuts to the primarily upper levels, and didn't have a funding mechanism and then wonder idea we as a economy crashed. it was the same order of thinking. give the tax cut but don't worry about paying for it. that sounds like recent history repeated. >> stephanie: right. >> i just think we're going into the danger zone. >> stephanie: obviously facts and numbers supporting the president, including the unemployment rate falling to 7.8%. that's huge news, isn't it? >> i think it's great news. knowing that 7.8% is the lowest it
it really is stunning to try to fact check romney, right? >> the one that got me was the revenue reducing tax cut, and talk about this resulting growing of the base and, you know, it's -- it's so interesting that -- that the revenue-neutral concept is pretty much just nomenclature they are suggesting that as the tax base grows, in the future we'll recover revenues and therefore the tax cut will be paid for. well that sounds an awful lot like the bush recession, where they fought two wars...
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governor romney saying he's never suggested such a thing. who is right on that? >> well, it is one of the instances where they're both right, or both wrong depending how you want to look at it. what governor romney has proposed is to cut tax rates by 20% and eliminate the estate tax and alternative minimum tax. when you do that over ten years you put $5 trillion hole in your revenue. so that's where obama gets $5 trillion tax cut. but governor romney says he will make up that money through eliminating loopholes, tax deductions that sort of thing but he hasn't specifically said which one his would target. but that's how he can say, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. obama can come back and say you haven't given specifics how can we believe it really adds up. in fact every study nonpartisan that has looked at this has said that you know, unless you really tweaked the numbers, there's not justify money out there to fill that $5 trillion hole. >> so, glenn, the president said she's the guy plan to cut $4 trillion in the deficit. here's how he describes that plan. >>
governor romney saying he's never suggested such a thing. who is right on that? >> well, it is one of the instances where they're both right, or both wrong depending how you want to look at it. what governor romney has proposed is to cut tax rates by 20% and eliminate the estate tax and alternative minimum tax. when you do that over ten years you put $5 trillion hole in your revenue. so that's where obama gets $5 trillion tax cut. but governor romney says he will make up that money...
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romney takes this american exceptionism too far in saying we are the good guys, our country right or wrong, these foreigners, europe is sort of bad, it is sort of, you know, it is sort of rotten, at least. and the rest of the world is dangerous and the arabs and all, there is a sense of the other is evil, it is not evil dangerous and i think the president is a much more positive view about the world, and perhaps less truculent and less mill tar risk so i think that is a big decision .. do we want to continue to join the world or do we want t stand-alone and use american exceptionism as our sort of justification for more military action? i think it is a real difference. it is within the 40-yard line on both sides but there is a difference, center right, center left and i think it is a good judgment for the american people to think which direction should we be heading. >> #02: thank you, chris, great to have you. >> charlie, it is always great, thank you. >> rose: we will be back, stay with us. >> rose: we continue our analysis of last night's debate from washington, david david leonha
romney takes this american exceptionism too far in saying we are the good guys, our country right or wrong, these foreigners, europe is sort of bad, it is sort of, you know, it is sort of rotten, at least. and the rest of the world is dangerous and the arabs and all, there is a sense of the other is evil, it is not evil dangerous and i think the president is a much more positive view about the world, and perhaps less truculent and less mill tar risk so i think that is a big decision .. do we...
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the right wing romney from the primary fight is no more. this week the etch-a-sketch came alove the former governor championed centrist principles and got away with it. he keeps this act up. michael steele is a former rare of the rnc as well as an msnbc political analyst and cynthia tucker is a syndicated columnist. thank you. michael, there's on old tradition in politics, you go to your fringe or hard left or hard right to win the primaries and caucuses and then you start to move slowly so boy labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do it like that. he stayed right all the way through the summer and maybe masterfully wednesday decided to go with i'm for the 100%. i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, for all this education, all this good stuff. >> i think part of that -- you're right in your anam sis, that's exactly what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had some shoring up to do with their base. >> can he pull it off? can you make that k
the right wing romney from the primary fight is no more. this week the etch-a-sketch came alove the former governor championed centrist principles and got away with it. he keeps this act up. michael steele is a former rare of the rnc as well as an msnbc political analyst and cynthia tucker is a syndicated columnist. thank you. michael, there's on old tradition in politics, you go to your fringe or hard left or hard right to win the primaries and caucuses and then you start to move slowly so boy...
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the right wing romney is no more. according to what happened this wednesday night. this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do that. he stayed right through the summer and masterfully, wednesday, started to go i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, i'm for education and all this good stuff. >> i think part of that, you're right, in your analysis there. that's what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had shoring up to do with their base. >> can you pull it off? can you make that switcheroo in september. >> i think you can. >> o
the right wing romney is no more. according to what happened this wednesday night. this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move...
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that's why they won't do it, right? romney won't tell us what he's getting rid of it because if he's getting rid of it, he's killing charitable organizations that need the money from charity. you start capping that, start messing around with people's mortgages, the one thing they need to build up some capital and personal worth. you mess with state and local. are you supposed to move if you live in new york or a high tax state like massachusetts, you're supposed to move because romney got elected? >> listen, his tax cut plan is going to slam about 68% of the american people, not 47% of the american people. he can't provide real details. you could close every single loophole that benefits the wealthy and just close it for the wealthy and it wouldn't pay for a fraction of the tax cut he's giving the wealthy. >> because they're still getting ahead. >> reducing capital gains to zero which means romney would pay virtually zero taxes. he's going to come back and say i want to work this out with the congress. well, i just don'
that's why they won't do it, right? romney won't tell us what he's getting rid of it because if he's getting rid of it, he's killing charitable organizations that need the money from charity. you start capping that, start messing around with people's mortgages, the one thing they need to build up some capital and personal worth. you mess with state and local. are you supposed to move if you live in new york or a high tax state like massachusetts, you're supposed to move because romney got...
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jim acosta is traveling with a governor romney and he has a lot going on right now, jim? >> that's right, wolf. and mitt romney is out to make the case that the best defense is a better economy. >> in battle ground virginia both president obama and mitt romney pulled out the heavy artillery. romney slammed the president for the defense cuts coming at the end of the year. >> it is still a troubled and dangerous world and the idea of cutting our military commitment by a trillion over this decade is unthinkable. and devastating. and when i become president of the united states, we will stop it. i will not cut our commitment to our military. >> the president once again blasted romney's hidden camera comments on the 47% of americans he dubbed victims of government dependence. >> i don't think we can get very far with heed lookers who write-off half the nation as a bunch of victims who never take responsibility for their own lives. >> 47% people of the people -- >> the obama campaign turned romney's remarks into a devastating new ad playing the words under the faces of families
jim acosta is traveling with a governor romney and he has a lot going on right now, jim? >> that's right, wolf. and mitt romney is out to make the case that the best defense is a better economy. >> in battle ground virginia both president obama and mitt romney pulled out the heavy artillery. romney slammed the president for the defense cuts coming at the end of the year. >> it is still a troubled and dangerous world and the idea of cutting our military commitment by a trillion...
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so rich people pay less under romney and more under obama. that is the ultimate answer, right? >> the ultimate answer is if either one get their proposals through. and one of the way our economy grows is if rich people have more money, they hire more people. you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get to the issue that rich people need the money because they create the jobs. i want to bring in ed and al and steve and chris back into this discussion. i want to bring back chris matthews in denver in terms of hearing the republican spin on this. seeing what seems to be real democratic frustration on this. we're hearing already in terms of the different responses. the romney side is proclaiming victory. the obama campaign does not seem to be doing that. chris? >> when you read "the new york times" tomorrow, you'll see a side bar, strong night for romney. i think it's an objective -- it may be theater, but this is
so rich people pay less under romney and more under obama. that is the ultimate answer, right? >> the ultimate answer is if either one get their proposals through. and one of the way our economy grows is if rich people have more money, they hire more people. you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get...
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we're coming into this very realistic mitt romney is likely to win if he plays his cards right. >> reporter: while the candidates themselves are laying low today, the running mates will be in the spotlight. >> tell us about what paul ryan is doing this weekend while mitt romney is rehearsing and getting ready in massachusetts. reporter: you got it. in an hour he will be behind me. we're in dairy, new hampshire. not far from massachusetts. it is a battleground state with four electoral votes up for grabs and later he campaigns in another battleground state, ohio and vice president biden is in another battleground state, florida. >> you can see the first presidential debate here on cnn wednesday on 7:00 p.m. eastern. thank you for spending your morning with us. >>> we have much more a hehead cnn saturday morning. it starts right now. good morning, everyone. i'm deborah fereyick in for randi kaye. >> i'm victor blackwell, 8:00 on the east coast, 5 in the west. we're starting with new revelations on the attack in libya, the attack that killed ambassador chris stevenson and three other americans
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. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strategy in pennsylvania suffered a big loss in court today. joy reid will join me on that. by bright eyes you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. it will be a dollar saved by somebody who switched to esurance. like, dollar karma. being online, esurance saves dollars that come back as more dollars for you. esurance. now backed by allstate. click or call. esurance. now backed by allstate. boproductivity up, costs down, thtime to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> i could have shown mitt romney months ago how to win tomorrow's debate. but i waited until tonight because i know it's way too late to try to teach mitt romney new lines for
. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strategy in pennsylvania suffered a big loss in court today. joy reid will join me on that. by bright eyes you're not just looking for a house. you're looking for a place for your life to happen. it will be a dollar saved by somebody who switched to esurance. like, dollar karma. being online, esurance saves dollars that come back as more dollars for you. esurance. now...
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we're coming into this very realistic mitt romney is likely to win if he plays his cards right. >> reporter: while the candidates themselves are laying low today, the running mates will be in the spotlight. >> tell us about what paul ryan is doing this weekend while mitt romney is rehearsing and getting ready in massachusetts. >> reporter: you got it. in an hour he will be behind me. we're in dairy, new hampshire. not far from massachusetts. it is a battleground state with four electoral votes up for
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the reality is, romney's heart is in the right place. he's saying he's against too big to fail as any sensible person ought to be. the reality is, as long as those banks are that big they're too big to fail. and the only way that you're ever going to withdraw the moral hazard, government safety net from those banks is to break them up. so if you think mitt romney is going to do that then you and i have a disagreement. his heart's in the right place but he's never going to do that. >> jeff, thank you very much. we appreciate it. don staying for the rest of the show. >>> the center for disease control is trying to contain a killer disease from spreading in the u.s. details up next. >>> here's here's a number to remember. the public debt of the u.s. went up by more than 93 million where. that's up more than all the debt of the federal government between independence day 1776 and october 1942. think of it. we'll be right back. you. we know you. we know you have to rise early... and work late, with not enough sleep in between. how you sometim
the reality is, romney's heart is in the right place. he's saying he's against too big to fail as any sensible person ought to be. the reality is, as long as those banks are that big they're too big to fail. and the only way that you're ever going to withdraw the moral hazard, government safety net from those banks is to break them up. so if you think mitt romney is going to do that then you and i have a disagreement. his heart's in the right place but he's never going to do that. >>...
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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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check out the guy on the right. it's good stuff. might not help romney with the latino vote. we're going to get a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll coming up in our next hour. >>> then bringing out bubba. president bill clinton will stump for the president in new hampshire at noon today. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> welcome back, ev
check out the guy on the right. it's good stuff. might not help romney with the latino vote. we're going to get a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll coming up in our next hour. >>> then bringing out bubba. president bill clinton will stump for the president in new hampshire at noon today. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you...
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what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set this up first for mike barnicle. we've all been saying the same thing. phone calls coming in last night from my democratic friends, independent friends, republicans, everybody's been asking the same thing, where did this come from? we've never seen this mitt romney before, but you say you have. >> yes, this is how mitt romney became governor of massachusetts in 2002 during a series of debates. he was exactly this way as he was last night. he came in prepared. he had a plan. he executed it. he was armed with specific information. he went right at the opponent. then it was shannon o'brien running for governor against
what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning. >> all right. good morning. it's thursday, october 4th. welcome to "morning joe." wow! page turns a bit. with us on set, we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle and national affairs for "new york" magazine and political analyst john heilemann. and in nashville, i love nashville, pulitzer prize-winning historian jon meacham. meacham. should we go right there? >> in one second. i've -- we've got to set...
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obama dell right it was not historic but the beginning of the potential comeback for mitt romney. neil: senator rubio said look at the missteps from this spring are other comments ill-timed or others but he lost momentum and they lost enthusiasm. he got it back to night. >> i agree. in the morning he has to declare victory to say that i want. barack obama did not damage himself he did not come in as said gladiator he seemed to want to have discourse he did not do brand damage but to say mitt romney came out a couple notches ahead. if he could do that the trend is significant the president will have to up his game to be more in a fighting spirit. he seemed like he wanted to get it over with. that is the prerogative but it was a good night for the republicans. neil: neither one was wearing a watch. [laughter] historic they those with knicks then/kennedy and reagan and/carter. today confirmed the trend or reverse was a trend? >> now there will be fact checking. we will see how that pans out. did mitt romney get a bounce? and donor money gets reenergize but not a sound bite to live on
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they're making me do my homework. >>. >> right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people are just hoping he remains upright. >> let's get to our panel. we're joining by a laughing krystal ball and joy reid. joy, there's a new poll which shows the president enjoys an 18-point advantage over mitt romney among women, but i guess that's another dirty trook trick by the liberal media. >> can we show the unskewed rsion of that poll? >> even at 18%. >> i think the problem for mitt romney, it isn't women's issues, it's also medicare. more women than men are concerned about taking care of their parents, and i think just the overall gamut of issues sort of favor the president with women, and i'll tell what you, mitt romney could only overcome a gap like that with women if he had a comparable gap among seniors. i think when you combine the gender gap with now the shrinking age gap, problems for romney. >> okay. well, krystal, to joy's point, mr. romney is increasingly relied upon his wife to connect to women. take a listen. here she is. >> this is the mitt romney i know, and
they're making me do my homework. >>. >> right now they're drilling him on basic grammar skills. >> romney's people are just hoping he remains upright. >> let's get to our panel. we're joining by a laughing krystal ball and joy reid. joy, there's a new poll which shows the president enjoys an 18-point advantage over mitt romney among women, but i guess that's another dirty trook trick by the liberal media. >> can we show the unskewed rsion of that poll? >>...
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. >> it was either 2008 or 2012, right? >> yes. >> and it wasn't 2012. >> all right. >> as diane was trying to explain, you can't say obama's problem was the altitude. but romney didn't have the same problem, and then say oh it takes more than a day or two to acclimate. romney didn't get there until monday night. >> so the debate was wednesday so he had more than a day. >> you said it takes more than a day or two. >> no, i said more than the day. yes, i did. go to the tape. >> see. >> wait, here is the tape. one day and one day only. guess i won. >> also bill, you said he is the president and he can't get to denver earl early. get to denver early. on tuesday he visited the hoover dam. >> that's what presidents do. >> by the way, -- well never mind. >> the romney shirt in the school. tom, why did you start singing "friday." >> rebecca black, she wore the shirt to school and i like her video. >> okay, i cannot argue with you, sir. there is something wrong with you expwrie. lastly, bill, you accused parents of forcing their ki
. >> it was either 2008 or 2012, right? >> yes. >> and it wasn't 2012. >> all right. >> as diane was trying to explain, you can't say obama's problem was the altitude. but romney didn't have the same problem, and then say oh it takes more than a day or two to acclimate. romney didn't get there until monday night. >> so the debate was wednesday so he had more than a day. >> you said it takes more than a day or two. >> no, i said more than the day....
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right now we're rooting for mitt romney. should mitt romney become president of the united states, watch out. conservatives are watching him very closely. but for now he's their only horse and they got to ride him. >> so many of them don't like -- they hate the president of the united states, so they're willing to stomach some of the more moderate positions. >> absolutely. don't forget, for many of them mitt romney was not their first choice. but right now he's their only choice unless it's president obama. and given that, they'll take mitt romney. >> gloria borger, thanks very much for joining us. jack welsh, former head of general electric calls the new unemployment rate unbelievable. thinks the numbers were manipulated. you're going to hear what the former white house chief economist is saying about that. here's just part of what he has to say. >> jack, i love you, but on this one you've just flat out lost your mind. everyone has goals. take the steps to reach yours, with us with real advice, for real goals. the us bank w
right now we're rooting for mitt romney. should mitt romney become president of the united states, watch out. conservatives are watching him very closely. but for now he's their only horse and they got to ride him. >> so many of them don't like -- they hate the president of the united states, so they're willing to stomach some of the more moderate positions. >> absolutely. don't forget, for many of them mitt romney was not their first choice. but right now he's their only choice...
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you know, mitt romney got a big laugh. he seemed genuine. >> right. i think i talk toud about this the other day. mike deaver, the media adviser to ronald reagan, he once said these television events -- and make no mistake a debate is a television event -- 85% visual, 10% how you sound and 5% of what you actually say. leading up to the importance of, as you've been talking about, likability. i'm taken aback by how much more stiff president obama was than mitt romney. you played moments like that and throughout the debate, mitt romney seemed calm, in command of the facts, comfortable, made eye contact with the president. the president simply just looked uncomfortabl uncomfortable. >> and, roland, one of the boston papers had a headline that it was snore more years for obama. i mean, the reviews of his performance are harsh. >> absolutely. i think that it was lackluster, to some degree. i will disagree with will cain when he said mitt romney had a command of the facts. he had a command of what mitt thought actually were facts. you look at the fact check
you know, mitt romney got a big laugh. he seemed genuine. >> right. i think i talk toud about this the other day. mike deaver, the media adviser to ronald reagan, he once said these television events -- and make no mistake a debate is a television event -- 85% visual, 10% how you sound and 5% of what you actually say. leading up to the importance of, as you've been talking about, likability. i'm taken aback by how much more stiff president obama was than mitt romney. you played moments...
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(applause) >> romney's right. you guys are like the 47% who are depending on the government to deport people. is that why you like obama because obama has supported a ton of you people. -- deport add ton of you people. >> well, president barack obama has deported more immigrants than any president in the history of the united states. >> stephen: so you get a free ride to the border. (laughter) >> what i would say is immigrants contribute much more to this country than what people might think. undocumented immigrants pay taxes and do the jobs-- >> they are criminals, they're illegals. they broke the law. you know the law? they broke the law. if you break the law you're a criminal, jorge. >> at the same time there are millions of americans who benefit from their work and thousands of american companies who hire them. and we don't call them illegal so we have to talk about co-responsibility. they are here because we benefit from the work. (applause) >> stephen: i don't have a comeback for that so they'll edit it out
(applause) >> romney's right. you guys are like the 47% who are depending on the government to deport people. is that why you like obama because obama has supported a ton of you people. -- deport add ton of you people. >> well, president barack obama has deported more immigrants than any president in the history of the united states. >> stephen: so you get a free ride to the border. (laughter) >> what i would say is immigrants contribute much more to this country than...
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there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of colorado for your hospitality. 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to a marry me. so i just want to wish sweety you happy anniversary, and let you know a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. [ laughter ] >> obama: four years ago we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost the auto industry was on the brink of collapse the financial system has frozen up and because of the resilience and determination of the american people we have beg
there is a noise exception right now, though as we welcome president obama and governor romney. [ cheers and applause ] >> jim. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy segment 1, and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about creating new jobs? you have two minutes -- each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has been determined mr. president you go first. >> obama: thank you very much for this opportunity. i...